Thursday, June 04, 2009

Riddle--the decline and fall of Emerico Ribner

Mr. Qeronimo was an American Indian. He married Jaffa Rasputin, who was half Jewish and half-Russian. they had a daughter named Jane R Qeronimo. She was like a mix of American Indian and white.

Mr. Efrico Rebelez was half-black and half-Spanish. He married Ebonya, who was black. They had a son named Ed Rebelez, who was black.

Ed Rebelez married Jane Qeronimo, they had a daughter named Elaine Queronimo JR Rebelez.

Mr. Rabble was a British white man, he married a white Irish woman named Roberta. They had a daughter named Rory Rabble who was white.

Mr. Ribner was a German-ancestry white man, he married Ingrid who was a white lady from Sweden. They had a son named Ian Ribner.

Ian Ribner who was white, married Rory Rabble, who was white. They had a son named Inderson R.R. Ribner, who was white (boldface=two paras I accidentally left out even after proofreading several times).

Elaine Rebelez on her father's side was 3/8ths black and 1/8th Spanish, on her mother's side she was 2/8ths American Indian, 1/8th Russian, and 1/8th Jewish. Basically she was about half-black.

Elaine looked like the mix of black and American Indian and white that she was. She was a light-skinned black with American Indian features.

As for Mr. Inderson Ribner, his ancestry was simpler: white, a quarter British, a quarter Irish, a quarter German, and a quarter Swedish.

Mr Inderson Ribner was put in the awkward position of a blind date with Elaine Rebelez. He took comfort in knowing that at least her mother's grandfather was Mr. Rasputin who was white; and her father's grandfather was a white Spanish gentleman Mr. Rebelez.

Inderson Ribner married Elaine Rebelez, they had a son named Emerico Rebelez Ribner.

Emerico was 70% white, if you count Russian, Spanish, and Jewish as white; he was 20% black, and 10% American Indian.

Emerico looked like a light-skinned black, or a dark-skinned white; handsome, with caucasoid features influenced by his American Indian ancestry.

Emerico had a distinctively American look, he had the dignity of a natural American. He was a great basketball player who appeared on national TV in the college finals. He was a good musician, gifted with a great voice for singing. He was a likeable and popular young man.

But something went wrong. He did'nt make the pros in basketball. Studying and working both fatigued him. He wasn't a fast thinker, or good at memorizing things. His parents divorced. And Emerico began to fall apart.

Emerico's father Inderson Ribner began to have secret doubts about having married Elaine Rebelez, Emerico's mother. He secretly began having guilty thoughts such as: "my ancestors were great white men but my son is a negro; if we treat blacks as just like us as I have, soon we will all be black".

Emerico while using his father's computer stumbled across text in which his father had written out his secret thoughts. Emerico looked in the mirror and for the first time felt shame regarding his skin color and the texture of his hair.

Emerico and his father Inderson turned to drink. They spent the family savings. They borrowed and spent. They sold what they had and spent the proceeds. And now Emerico and his father Inderson Ribner, totter at the point of collapse.

Some say it is all because the two of them both think Emerico is black because Emerico is 20% black, and feel guilty about helping to turn the world's white people into blacks.

Explanation of Riddle:

Emerico = USA

First letters of names, sometimes second or third letters of names, initials in names = Y-dna haplogroups.

Original link re US Y-dna haplogroups:
http://nitro.biosci.arizona.edu/zdownload/papers/FSI-2006.PDF
The above link is now a broken link. Now to get the paper in question:
http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0379073805006158


@2009 David Virgil Hobbs

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Reverse-genetic-drift and reverse-migration effects on estimates re ancient haplogroup percentages in local human populations

A principle of genetic history, is "genetic drift" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_drift ), meaning that in isolated populations, the y-haplogroups that are in a plurality or majority (supposedly) become more and more dominant in terms of percentage-wise representation in the population (soon perhaps I'll understand exactly how such occurs and be totally convinced of the validity of the concept).

So one could say that the opposite of genetic drift, would be haplogroups that dominate an area simply due to the area's isolaton, having been less dominant in terms of percentage representation in the given local population in the past.

At the same time it is reasonable to suspect that in the past, since localities were more isolated from each other, localities resembled each other less than they do now, in terms of percentage of persons in given localities possessing given haplogroup markers.

Extrapolating and projecting backwards in time accounting for such effects, even assuming very slight annual change in percentage representation of a haplogroups in localities over the past few thousands of years, the calculated level of change over the past few thousands of years from the distant past to the present, can be dramatic.

This compound-interest-type effect can be understood by toying with a compound interest calculator online.

Imagine two nations, land X, and land Y.
The following gives numbers and percentages for individuals carrying haplogroups A, B and C in 2000 AD for the two nations:

land X: A 20 (20%) B 10 (10%) C 70 (70%);

land Y: B 15 (15%) C 05 (5%) D 80 (80%);

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Now imagine that it is 1500 years BP (before present), in the year 500 AD. 1500 years ago due to the reverse migration effect as we go back in time, the B group had not migrated from land Y to land X, and the C group had not migrated from land X to land Y. As a result, the situation was:

(10 B's moves to Y, 5 C's moved to X in formula)

500 AD

X: a 20 (21%) c75 (79%).

Y: b 25 (24%) d80 (76%).

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Now imagine that it is 3000 BP, in the year 1000 BC. In the 1500 years transpiring between 1000 BC and 500 AD, genetic drift increased the percentage-wise dominance of the more common haplogroups in the localities. Therefore in 1000 BC the dominant groups were less dominant than they were in 500 AD. Thus in 1000 BC, the haplogroup percentage scores were closer to each other than they were in 500 AD:

1000 BC:

X: a 33 (35%) c 62 (65%)

Y: b 39 (37%) d 66 (63%)

In the end,

in land X, in terms of change in percentages from 2000 AD to 1000 BC, the change was: A 20->35; B, 10-> 0; C, 70-> 65;

And in land Y the change was: B, 15 -> 37; C, 5-> 0; D, 80->63.

Star of the show in terms of showing itself to have once been powerful in an area where it now just seems to be a small fry: haplogroup B, for whom the estimate of percentage representation in land Y using the formula is 40% for 1000 BC compared to 15% in 2000 AD.

Generally it seems possible that the effect of conceptual reverse-genetic-drift and reverse-migration when imaginatively going back in time, is that the estimate is that in the point back in time, the haplogroups that are weakly represented now in a locality were not represented at all, and the remaining haplogroups that are moderately represented now, were closer to other haplogroups in terms of percentage representation in the locality.


@2009 David Virgil Hobbs

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