Words of ancient philosophers (Straussianism) vs beliefs of actual ruling groups, results of such beliefs
Straussians argue as if, the really important thing is, what philosophers of a given age wrote down in books, as opposed to what the rules and peoples believed, did, and accomplished.
It is false to assume, that what philosophers of given eras wrote in books, reflects the beliefs and codes of conduct of national leaders and citizens.
There is plenty of historical evidence showing how the words written by philosphers and philosopher-like persons, differ, from the beliefs and actions of contemporaneous government leaders and citizens.
The Neo-conservative Straussians themselves admit, that often philosophers for fear of retribution, wrote in a style such taht the ignorant would think the words meant one thing whereas the true meaning of the wors were something else.
So, looking at the confusion produced by conjecture and dispute re what th supposed hidden message of a philospher is, a hidden one that conflicts with the common sense interpretation of the words of the philosopher, you have the confusion caused by how rulers and subjects vary from philosophers who especially in ancient illierate societies were very unusual, though not necessarily powerful persons. Thus there is exponential confusion clouding the rresolution of the issues at hand, which are,when if ever were the philosopher's ideas ever actually tested in the real world? What was the net result of the testing out of the philosopher's ideas?
Whereas, seeing taht rulers and citizens are the ones who have historically conrolled society as opposed to philosophers, and seeing how the beliefs of rulers and itizens have diverged from those of philosophers, the for more scientific approach would be to analyze what the beliefs of those with real power have been and what the kinds of outcomes such beliefs have actually produced.
(Straussians unleash the forces of murder and theft through lies, yet their own sacred scriptures are in confusion because their revered priests of yore and yesteryear, were, according to the Straussians themselves, writing in such a way that they did not actually mean what common sense dictates they meant. Do Straussians realize that ancient philosophers can be overvalued because they were members of populations in which very few person were literate, compared to the numbers of literate persons around today?)
@2005 David Virgil Hobbs
It is false to assume, that what philosophers of given eras wrote in books, reflects the beliefs and codes of conduct of national leaders and citizens.
There is plenty of historical evidence showing how the words written by philosphers and philosopher-like persons, differ, from the beliefs and actions of contemporaneous government leaders and citizens.
The Neo-conservative Straussians themselves admit, that often philosophers for fear of retribution, wrote in a style such taht the ignorant would think the words meant one thing whereas the true meaning of the wors were something else.
So, looking at the confusion produced by conjecture and dispute re what th supposed hidden message of a philospher is, a hidden one that conflicts with the common sense interpretation of the words of the philosopher, you have the confusion caused by how rulers and subjects vary from philosophers who especially in ancient illierate societies were very unusual, though not necessarily powerful persons. Thus there is exponential confusion clouding the rresolution of the issues at hand, which are,when if ever were the philosopher's ideas ever actually tested in the real world? What was the net result of the testing out of the philosopher's ideas?
Whereas, seeing taht rulers and citizens are the ones who have historically conrolled society as opposed to philosophers, and seeing how the beliefs of rulers and itizens have diverged from those of philosophers, the for more scientific approach would be to analyze what the beliefs of those with real power have been and what the kinds of outcomes such beliefs have actually produced.
(Straussians unleash the forces of murder and theft through lies, yet their own sacred scriptures are in confusion because their revered priests of yore and yesteryear, were, according to the Straussians themselves, writing in such a way that they did not actually mean what common sense dictates they meant. Do Straussians realize that ancient philosophers can be overvalued because they were members of populations in which very few person were literate, compared to the numbers of literate persons around today?)
@2005 David Virgil Hobbs
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